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ididjaustralia
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Post subject: Amazing mago - anyone knows who made it? Guessing game... Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:05 pm |
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kdidj
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:19 pm |
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Interesting question. The pigments and linework make me think it's a Port Keats (or similar area) stick, perhaps by Nim Bandak or one of the other noted artists of the area although the stylistic rendering of the snakes reminds me of some of the older barks from Oenpelli that used rather strange pigment mixes including a very greenish yellow.
I'll be interested in finding out the answer!
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flyangler18
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:51 pm |
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Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:40 am Posts: 399 Location: Hanover, PA
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Regardless who made it, that's a beaut! Any idea what the age is?
I do see some similarities to the older Oenpelli barks, especially in those interesting pigments.
Jason
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ididjaustralia
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:58 pm |
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mahoran
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:30 am |
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Hi everybody,
I am more curious to know how it sounds..
Can we hear a short and dirty sample Guan?
cheers
M.
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kdidj
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:19 am |
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I'd guess Namerredje Guymala based on colour and the stylization in the figurative elements however the linework coupled with the grey/blue pigment still makes me think it's by someone from the Port Keats area.
A couple of wild guesses would be a) David Blanasi and b) Yirawala.
Any further clues?
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flyangler18
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:52 am |
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There's something very familiar about the interlocking banding coupled with the rendering of the snakes, but I just can't place it. The short-line infill looks slightly Groote-ish, but that's clearly not the case.
I'll have to check some of my reference books when I get home 
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kdidj
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:50 pm |
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flyangler18
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:54 pm |
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Quote: Are you going to enlighten us as to the craftsman Guan?
Yes, please do Guan! I'd actually forgotten all about this thread. Thanks for surfacing it again K.
J
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ididjaustralia
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:14 pm |
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flyangler18
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:59 am |
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Quote: The mago is 1940s vintage, collected by a doctor in the NW region of the NT, not quite Port Keats but kinda close-by.
Cox Peninsula, perhaps?
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ididjaustralia
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:44 am |
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Yes, well done Jason! It is from the Cox Peninsula area
Guan
flyangler18 wrote: Quote: The mago is 1940s vintage, collected by a doctor in the NW region of the NT, not quite Port Keats but kinda close-by. Cox Peninsula, perhaps?
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marcuz
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:42 am |
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hello there!!
so how did this story finish?? Guan, did u ever tell the name of the maker of this beauty???
i turned up in this thread by chance, and was indeed impressed by this mago... i couldn't tell a name of a maker, but yes, do agree with the appreciation of it belonging to a Wadeye sorta "new school of arts"... christian mission figurative influence, perhaps? anyhow, Cox peninsula -Mandorah, Belyuen, etc- and Wadeye are very much related by song as well, so it could somehow be linked with both...
i'd love to know!!!
m
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stockie
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 9:15 am |
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Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:10 am Posts: 208 Location: Kent, UK
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This stuff is really really cool very very anorachy though tee hee its cool because it gets those like me who no very little virging on bugger all about this type of thing the knowledge from those that do ie Guan, Jason and Kyle where (apart from Guan as he is in the thick of it all) do you guys get to know this stuff cant be off the net that much as I spend loads of time on it trying to find stuff and cant. so there fore has to be books........ can I have a book list please sir?
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ididjaustralia
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 4:30 pm |
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marcuz wrote: hello there!!
so how did this story finish?? Guan, did u ever tell the name of the maker of this beauty???
i turned up in this thread by chance, and was indeed impressed by this mago... i couldn't tell a name of a maker, but yes, do agree with the appreciation of it belonging to a Wadeye sorta "new school of arts"... christian mission figurative influence, perhaps? anyhow, Cox peninsula -Mandorah, Belyuen, etc- and Wadeye are very much related by song as well, so it could somehow be linked with both...
i'd love to know!!!
m
Hi Marcos,
There's quite a lot of history to this instrument like when and in what circumstances it was collected. The name of the artist is not known though, it was very rare for the name of the artist or craftsperson to be recorded in the early days of collecting.
Guan
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