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ididjaustralia
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Post subject: Australia, the feature film Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:00 am |
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Anyone seen Australia the movie yet? What did you think? There was a substantial Indigenous theme, more than I had imagined. But a recent controversy which goes back to the women-shouldn't-play-the-didgeridoo thing, see the article below:
Quote: Nicole blows it with the Aborigines
Lost in Showbiz has yet to see Baz Luhrmann's epic Australia, but is reliably informed that its name is death, destroyer of worlds. And not in a good way.
Thus, much like erstwhile husband Tom Cruise, it falls to Nicole Kidman to talk up her turkey in a promotional blitz, while ensuring her facial expression doesn't give away the fact she knows it.
That bit she can manage. Seriously: nothing's furrowing that brow. Unfortunately, Nicole is less adept at deflecting German chatshow hosts' attempts to make her look foolish, and so it was that this week she found herself being persuaded to try and play the didgeridoo on a TV programme called "Wetten, dass ... ?" which is German for "Good Morning, WTF?!"
Unaware that she had just sparked a major cultural incident, Kidman returned to her hotel with husband Keith Urban and five-month-old daughter Sunday Rose. Within hours, however, the Sydney Morning Herald had dredged up an award-winning actor, screenwriter and Aboriginal language teacher called Richard Green to offer a measured take on a disgraceful display that must have been witnessed by countless Germany-based Australian Aboriginals.
"People are going to see Nicole playing it and think it's all right," he raged. "It bastardises our culture. I will guarantee she has no more children."
A teacher, you say? I'm so glad this guy's shaping young minds.
"It is not meant to be played by women," Green continued, "because it will make them barren."
Cobblers. Sorry, indigenous Australians - you know I love you and stuff, but this column openly deplores all ceremonial spirituality and the crappy sexism attached thereto. Of course, at 41 and with a history of ectopic pregnancy, Nicole is not best placed to birth another kookily named child just to spite this enchanting chap. But the Urban-Kidmans are hereby encouraged to get trying, if only to preclude the "A didgeridoo took my baby" headlines.
Source: The Guardian
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Peter Lister
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:46 pm |
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Yep, I've seen it. Loved it ! Saw it again - loved it more. It's so 1940's, so cheesy and fun - "classic" plot, witty entanglements with 'Wizard of Oz' - it reminds me of my childhood 'Matinee' movies. It was nothing like I expected -cleverman Baz.
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logrhythm
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Post subject: Re: Australia, the feature film Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 2:34 am |
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Yes...we saw it earlier this week and we thought it was well done. Gonna wait for the DVD to see it again & share it with others, but we definately look forward to seeing it again. We particularly liked the accurate cultural exposure and felt that there were moments reminiscent of "Rabbit Proof Fence." It was unfortunate that Nicole was taken to task when asked to attempt playing on a talk show. A big issue over nothing.
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IPlayDidgeridoo
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:52 am |
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Joined: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:26 am Posts: 69 Location: Denmark
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I have heard that it is NOT forbidden for a woman to play the didgeridoo, that it is just a urban legend, but is that true??
Lies B. from Holland is playing the didgeridoo, and she do it very well - she is also playing in Australia some times, and she is well known around the world - and I have never heard that any aboriginal should be mad at her because she is playing the didge. I'm a little confused about the Nicole K. thing - by the way it is a very stupid german program if you ask me - don't like it - why should they do this stupid thing about getting Nicole K. play on a instrument she can´t play???
Sorry for my english.
Kind regards
Søren
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danielsaan
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:00 pm |
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Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:22 am Posts: 169 Location: London
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IPlayDidgeridoo wrote: I have heard that it is NOT forbidden for a woman to play the didgeridoo, that it is just a urban legend, but is that true??
Lies B. from Holland is playing the didgeridoo, and she do it very well - she is also playing in Australia some times, and she is well known around the world - and I have never heard that any aboriginal should be mad at her because she is playing the didge. I'm a little confused about the Nicole K. thing - by the way it is a very stupid german program if you ask me - don't like it - why should they do this stupid thing about getting Nicole K. play on a instrument she can´t play???
Sorry for my english.
Kind regards Søren - Denmark
Google "Dhawu yidakiwuy" for that - a study by Randin Graves. It discusses Women and yidaki, and also whites and yidaki.
Dan
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ididjaustralia
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:29 pm |
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Interesting to see Germaine Greer get into this debate, she's always got something to say...
Quote: Nicole, that's not a didgeridoo, it's a yidaki. And you should have belted that German with it Germaine Greer The Guardian, Monday 22 December 2008
Should a woman ever play a man's instrument? When Nicole Kidman blew into what the innocent and uncaring call a didgeridoo, some, under the impression that the use of the instrument was confined to males, were astonished at her temerity, while others became furious that anyone should think that there was any instrument that a woman might not play if she chose. Kidman and her co-star Hugh Jackman were in Germany to promote Australia the movie. Thomas Gottschalk, host of the country's hit game show Wetten, Dass ... ? had apparently decided to make a joke of all things Aboriginal. Jackman was challenged to stand on one leg as Aborigines do, which Gottschalk found hilarious. Kidman stood expressionless until Gottschalk thrust the didgeridoo he was brandishing up against her lip-gloss. For a second, I hoped she'd belt him round the ear with it, and for another that she would hike up her skirt, sit on the floor, prop the didge on her big toe and give it her best. Instead, she remained standing, took it in one hand and blew a parp. A didgeridoo is at least as hard to play as a valveless trumpet, but anyone can make it fart. More brutal glee from the host. No doubt about it, Aboriginal culture was hilarious. Kidman blew a second parp, and that was it.
Most people think that didgeridoo is an Aboriginal word. There is no such language as Aboriginal and no such word in any surviving Aboriginal language. The same is true of the words kangaroo and koala. The languages that these words are derived from may have perished, which is all too possible, or whitefellas may have invented them. One researcher thinks that didgeridoo may be an Irish coinage, a nonce word like boogaloo or dingaling. Certainly, some of the worse-tempered bloggers on the subject suggested that Kidman would be best advised to get herself home to Tennessee and blow a few riffs on her husband's didgeridoo.
A more correct name for the instrument made out of a branch of an ironwood or bloodwood tree (of which the heartwood has been eaten out by termites) is yidaki. The ideal branch narrows towards one end, which will form the mouthpiece, and spreads gradually towards the other, to form the bell. Different shapes, bores and dimensions provide different pitches and resonances. The branch is first smoothed down and dressed with ochre, then decorated by a kinswoman of the designated player, if possible his mother, with simple and subtle designs signifying his identity and clan relationships. It is inappropriate for anyone to presume to play anyone else's yidaki. What Kidman was asked to play was the kind of gaudily decorated fake yidaki sold by the thousands in Australian tourist shops and played by buskers in just about every German shopping mall.
In September this year, the inclusion of a chapter on How to Play a Didgeridoo, in the new Australian edition of The Daring Book for Girls, called forth a rebuke from Dr Mark Rose, who, on the strength of his "traditional link" to the Gunditjmara people of Western Victoria, has built himself a promising career as an Aboriginal spokesperson, culminating in his appointment as head of the Victorian Aboriginal Education Association. No sooner had Kidman handed her yidaki back to Gottschalk than the media, thus forewarned, were beating the bushes for an Aboriginal person to badmouth her. They came up with award-winning actor and playwright, and teacher of the Dharug language, Richard Green, who was only too happy to make himself conspicuous by announcing that by "playing" a yidaki Kidman had rendered herself infertile. He was joined by Allen Madden, cultural and educational officer at Sydney's Metropolitan Local Aboriginal Land Council.
Neither of these commentators belongs to a group for whom the yidaki has any ceremonial significance whatsoever. At the top end of the Northern Territory, where the yidaki is an essential element in ceremonies, women have been known to master the yidaki. Jemima Wimalu, a Mara woman from Roper river, was recorded playing a yidaki at Borroloola in 1966. A woman past reproductive age could presumably play the yidaki without ill effect. What must be clear is that the yidaki is difficult to play well. Anyone can drone away, but building and maintaining the crossover rhythms requires real skill. The player also has to master the art of circular breathing so that the ribbons of sound are continuous, which is fiendishly difficult and requires both muscular strength and stamina. No European woodwind player has ever even tried to play without pauses for breath. Masters of the yidaki can play for hours. Few Aboriginal women became masters of the yidaki because, given their onerous duties as chief providers of sustenance, few had the time.
Those Aboriginal men who uttered dark threats to Kidman's fertility were themselves newcomers to the yidaki, which is now a fixture in all Aboriginal pop music. Their shock is mostly to be explained by the universal male distaste for the idea of a woman with a horn. Lists of famous trumpeters, trombonists, saxophonists and French horn players rarely name any women at all, though women have played all these instruments to professional standard. Generally speaking, the musicians they played with had no trouble accepting or respecting them, except for the Vienna Philharmonic, which is still reluctant to accept female musicians as full members of the orchestra, no matter what they play.
Source: The Guardian
I doubt what Kidman tried to blow was a real yi daki, that is, an instrument from eastern Arnhem Land. Most probably it was just a generic didgeridoo.
Guan
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:06 pm |
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ididjaustralia
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:42 am |
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Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:39 pm Posts: 2021 Location: Australia
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danielsaan
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:13 am |
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That film has been taken down sadly.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:47 am |
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Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:39 pm Posts: 2021 Location: Australia
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:49 pm |
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I've got to agree with Bita on this one. Saw the film on Saturday night and think it was fantastic. Loved everything about it and young Brandon Walters stole the show. Gulpillil was stoic as King George and I'd recommend this film to anyone interested in Aboriginal culture.
Very entertaining.
Kyle
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:02 pm |
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I certainly enjoyed the film, and yes, the aboriginal parts were all excellently played. In addition to those mentioned by Kyle, there was also an excellent part as Aboriginal Tracker played by Crusoe Kurddal of Ten Canoes fame and David Ngoombujarra as Hugh Jacksons right-hand man.
The film treats many different historical events that took place in Australia (Northern Territory), around the end of the second world war.
The treatment of the Stolen Generation, which runs as a thread through the entire film, was chilling.
cheers, Martin
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Post subject: Re: Australia, the feature film Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:26 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Australia, the feature film Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:02 am |
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Post subject: Re: Australia, the feature film Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 2:31 pm |
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